Auschwitz of butterflies, a photo from Malopolskie, East

Photographer's Note

ENG - ITA - FRA

As in a lot they know, I am passionate about butterfly photography. But I have always worked in nature, and I had never been in a butterfly house, which are some kind of zoo where you can see many rare species. I was shocked by the visit of the butterfly house in Krakow. A real lager. A large room located on the first floor of a building in the center, where the butterflies have no chance to feed and remain glued to the walls. Even worse, see how they are treated and how children reduce them. I am speechless, I hope that this place will be closed as soon as possible and I am sorry to have paid the entrance that has contributed to its maintenance. In the pictures you can see how the wings are damaged, while the butterfly in the lower right corner was actually dead. Luckily there are other better butterfly houses, like the one Paul VDV told us about in his last post.

ITA
Come in molto sanno, io sono apassionato di fotografia delle farfalle. Ma ho sempre operato in natura, e non ero mai stato in una casa delle farfalle, che sono delle specie di zoo in cui si possono vedere molte specie rare. Sono rimasto scioccato dalla visita della casa delle farfalle di Cracovia. Un vero lager. Uno stanzone situato al primo piano di un palazzo in centro, in cui le farfalle non hanno possibilita' di nutrirsi e restano incollate alle pareti. Ancora peggio vedere come vengono trattare e come i bambini le riducano. Sono senza parole, io spero che questo posto venga chiuso al piu presto e mi dispiace di aver pagato l'entrata che ha contribuito al suo manteninento. Nelle foto potete vedere come le ali sono danneggiate, mentre la farfalla in basso a destra era addirittura morta. Per fortuna ci sono altre case delle farfalle migliore,come quella di cui ci ha parlato Paul VDV nel suo ultimo post.

FRA
Comme ils le savent souvent, je suis passionné par la photographie de papillons. Mais j'ai toujours travaillé dans la nature et je n’étais jamais allé dans une serre à papillons, une sorte de zoo où l’on peut voir de nombreuses espèces rares. J'ai été choqué par la visite de la maison des papillons à Cracovie. Une vraie bière blonde. Une grande salle située au premier étage d'un bâtiment du centre où les papillons n'ont aucune chance de se nourrir et restent collés aux murs. Pire encore, voyez comment ils sont traités et comment les enfants les réduisent. Je suis sans voix, j'espère que cet endroit sera fermé le plus tôt possible et je suis désolé d'avoir payé l'entrée qui a contribué à son entretien. Sur les images, vous pouvez voir comment les ailes sont endommagées, alors que le papillon dans le coin inférieur droit était réellement mort. Heureusement, il existe d'autres meilleures maisons de papillons, comme celle que Paul VDV nous a racontée dans son dernier message.

pierrefonds, PaulVDV, Fis2, papagolf21, ikeharel, ChrisJ, holmertz, snunney, Royaldevon, alvaraalto, jhm, dale54, adramad, tyro, mcmtanyel, jemaflor, macjake, COSTANTINO has marked this note useful

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pierrefonds (93531) 2018-11-03 18:03

Bonsoir Luciano,

La prise de vue permet de voir les détails des différents papillons. La netteté est très bonne. Une exposition des papillons a lieu tous les ans au Jardin botanique de Montréal, où le milieu naturel est recréé dans la serre. Bonne soirée.

Pierre

PaulVDV (49024) 2018-11-03 19:10

Hello Luciano,
The place that I visited on the island Ometepe was a delimited part of the nature reserve Charco Verde. I called it a 'butterfly farm' because that's the name being used in other places but I do not really know how to describe it correctly. It's a place where butterflies were supposed to live as in nature. The domain had a lot of flowers. Yet the butterflies received additional nutrition in the form of fruit. Ultimately, these animals can not leave that demarcated domain and consequently it's a kind of prison.
Living on a limited surface these animals are under more pressure from the visitors than if they would have the wide world as their habitat. A nature reserve must always be large enough to allow animals to live as in nature.
I admit it was rather easy to take pictures of butterflies there while I had never succeeded in taking a decent photo of a butterfly before. But actually it remains a life in captivity, one that may be more luxurious than others.
If I understand well you've visited a building in Krakow where butterflies 'lived' on the first floor. This without food or any possible form of natural environment. A very strange thing and I understand your displeasure when you saw this place with your own eyes.
Your intention here is therefore not to show us pictures of the beauty of butterflies but to formulate a complaint against unnecessary animal suffering in which I fully support you.
Best regards, Paul

ifege (20891) 2018-11-03 20:18

Hi Luciano
I can instantly see why this photo is on TE and not TN. This butterlfy house is bizarre - having no foliage so not even prentending to have a naturalish setting. Despite that the photo is clear and sharp.
cheers
Ian

pajaran (92116) 2018-11-03 21:52

Dobro jutro.
Lep pogled, dobar tekst ...
Dobar rad sa vise fotografija, lepo pokazano, dobar kontrast, lepe boje.
Lepi leptiri.
Zelim vam lep dan za odmor, sve najbolje.
Paja.

Good morning.
Nice view, good text ...
Good work with more photos, beautifully shown, good contrast, nice colors.
Nice butterflies.
I wish you a nice day for rest, all the best.

emka (139142) 2018-11-03 23:26

Hello Luciano,

It looks awful indeed. At the first moment I didn't like the title but after reading your note I understand your intention.
I was in the Butterfly house in Vienna some years ago. It was a big high hall, full of flowers, like orangerie. I found it interesting that special flowers attracted the special kinds of butterflies. When I was in Vienna later I visited it once more but I was a bit disappointed.
The zoo is always kind of prison for the animals. But it can be also the way of preserving them. And often it is the place for education.

Kind regrads Malgo

mesutilgim (115416) 2018-11-03 23:57

Hello Luciano,
Nice picturepack with those beautiful 4 closeups of 4 different butterflies.
Good thechnique and good sharpness. Many interesting and usefull notes as well.
TFS and have a nice weekend
MESUT ILGIM

Fis2 (142609) 2018-11-04 0:55

Witaj Luciano!
Beautiful collage.
Bytterflies are impressive.
Good frames, light and colors.
Excellent presentation.
I support the protest!
Nice sunday.
Krzysztof

papagolf21 (145076) 2018-11-04 0:57

Bonjour, cher ami Luciano,
Alors là, je dis bravo pour ces superbes mises en image mettant en valeur ces papillons aux ailes délicatement colorées.
Très bonne note. Que du très bon.
Amitiés.
Philippe

ChrisJ (152366) 2018-11-04 1:19

Hello Luciano,

The only good thing about this butterfly park is that we appreciate the images that you and Silvio upload that much more. It's like comparing McDonalds to the very finest Italian restaurant. That said, all 4 images are sharp & well framed and cropped. Tfs!

carlo62 (81023) 2018-11-04 1:46

Ciao Luciano
probabilmente quando hanno chiuso Auschwitz si sono dimenticati di chiudere questo luogo di tortura....
Non è mai piacevole avere certe notizie, di qualsiasi vivente si tratti.
Buona domenica
Carlo

holmertz (83294) 2018-11-04 2:02

Hello Luciano,
Step by step, looking at the photos, seeing the title and reading your note I realized that this is not one of your usual butterfly photos. I would be more upset to see tigers or bears or similar animals living in small cages in a zoo, but I understand why this place in Krakow made you outraged. Luckily I did not see this "museum" in Krakow, so I didn't pay for its maintenance. A place like this is not needed by anyone, so I hope it will go bankrupt and be forced to close.
Kind regards,
Gert

snunney (130965) 2018-11-04 2:43

Hello Luciano,
A sorry set of specimens. I have always been rather disappointed by the so-called butterfly farms I have visited; the one I went to in Malaysia was no better unfortunately. The only advantage as far as I am concerned is that the insects tend to stay motionless for longer. Then, they would if they were dead I suppose!

Tue (71862) 2018-11-04 2:44

Hello Luciano,
At first this looks like a wonderful collection of some beautiful butterflies and their gorgeous and varied patterns on their wings. But after more carefully examining the photo, one can see how sad these butterflies look with their broken wings. Certainly not the right way to treat these beautiful animals.
Lars

Royaldevon (64286) 2018-11-04 3:42

Ciao Caro Luciano,

Thank you for alerting us to this tragedy!
I can see no point in having a butterfly house where the main attraction, the butterflies are mistreated or dead! It is so contrary to the modern trend of caring for and protecting creatures!
That being said, this is a fine photograph to send your message to other TE members!

Have a good day,
Bev :-)

alvaraalto (38606) 2018-11-04 3:46

Hello Luciano,
As you describe the butterfly garden in Krakow, it is indeed better that it closes. Fortunately, there are many examples of good butterfly gardens, such as in Artis, the zoo of Amsterdam. When I come there (usually once a year) I try to make some nice pictures of butterflies, but that hardly succeeds because the many species flutter happily among the many flowers and shrubs.
Have a good Sunday, groet Rob

Silvio1953 (191181) 2018-11-04 4:31

Ciao Luciano, io ci sono stato solo una volta, a Budrio, non mi è piacito, come far foto allo zoo, questo poi è proprio un lager, macro di gran qualità, come al soloto, ma avrei preferito non vederle, cimunque bravo, ciao Silvio

Nicou (188416) 2018-11-04 5:32

Hello

Effectivement c'est une honte il faut ferme ce genre d'endroit terrible c'est si beau les papillons dans la nature sur une belle fleur en train de se régaler ces couleurs ce ailes c'est merveilleux de le voir voler de fleurs en fleurs, dommage que de tels endroit subsistent.
Belle journée
Nicou

jhm (191315) 2018-11-04 5:49

Hello Luciano,

Butterflies is always a very nice subject to make a picture.
The four different butterflies are pleasant to look at.
Nice perspective and depth picture nice photographed.
An excellent composition and succesful picture.
Very well done, TFS.

Have a nice Sunday,
John.

dale54 (15988) 2018-11-04 6:25

luciano good evening my friend and hello....yes..now that is truly sad! Iam speechless too...nice warning to us all...TFS dale

jmdias (91900) 2018-11-04 7:20

luciano

many people think animals and especially insects, are like stones. I remember some sad images I saw in small zoos I visited with animals suffering. nice flagrant and document about the place and how bad it is with these beautiful animals.

take care

jorge

rychem (68021) 2018-11-04 8:23

It is very, very sad, these butterfies are so beautiful, and even in the zoo they can have better conditions, I do not understand people who are supposed to care for butterflies
regards Ryszard

Cricri (176) 2018-11-04 9:00

Ciao Luciano
Quelle tristesse de voir cela...je te comprend cela a du être dur de les voir dans de telle conditions, je suis contre la maltraitance des animaux quel qu'il soit!!
j'espère que ces photos feront le tour du monde, que cet endroit soit fermer a jamais
Bonne soirée
cricri

adramad (62656) 2018-11-04 11:00

Hi Luciano.
Well sir, these butterflies are gorgeous. And must
be the only nice and beautiful thing that can be seen in
Auschwitz
An image to enjoy, with its beautiful colors, great luminosity and perfect sharpness.
Superbly captured. I love.
Happy start of the week
Very best regards.
Luis.

tyro (29026) 2018-11-04 14:01

Ciao caro Luciano,

This is absolutely appalling! It makes me sad and also very angry to read your note and also to see your photographs (all perfectly and beautifully taken) of these desperate creatures. Were they really stuck to the walls and unable to move? If so, this is indeed the Auschwitz of Butterflies.

I must confess that I have never been to a butterfly house and, now I have seen your excellent but disturbing post today, I don't think I shall ever visit one.

A perfect upload for TE but a very distressing one too.

Kind Regards,

John.

mcmtanyel (54521) 2018-11-04 17:31

Hello Luciano,
Yes, I can see the damaged wings of the pretty butterflies. We should treat the creatures nicely if we are going to imprison them, shouldn't we? 👍
Regards,
MT

jemaflor (125691) 2018-11-04 23:06

Salut Luciano,
Une belle présentation avec cette photo rassemblant ces quatre paipillons, parfaite netteté et idéale luminosité pour les teintes.

jimmj63 (0) 2018-11-05 0:26

ciao Luciano
nulla sapevo di questo posto evidentemente mal fatto e mal gestito. Per quel poco che ne so dovrebbero essere posti pieni di vegetazione per farle mangiare e riprodursi e anche per creare un ambiente bello da vedere. E' possibile ricreare dei parchi per le farfalle anche all'aperto, basta selezionare le piante giuste e trasportare con le dovute cure le larve (i bruchi), a sud di torino c'è uno dei migliori entomologi europei e anni fa ho provato a proporre un giardino delle farfalle in una scuola materna a Venaria, non costruito.
ciao, Giacomo

Ilonka1974 (5437) 2018-11-06 8:00

Hi Luciano,
A very good shot of four different butterflies.
Sharpness and clarity are pleasant.
Nice presentation.
Best regards
Janusz

macjake (92625) 2018-11-10 3:55

Hi Luciano
wow, how is this place still operating? this is terrible.
How do they get away with it? Let the butterflies fly free and roam around. You have opened my eyes to this, I didn't know they had farms like this where they are stuck to the wall.
Shame on them. Thanks for bringing this to my attention
cheers
Craig

ikeharel (98790) 2018-12-11 0:56

Thought a lot what to write about this picture, Luciano.
As one would expect a butterflies displayed room, I'd say let them fly...
Anyway, I know your passion for those flyers, totally agree to the note written.
My best regards,
Ike

COSTANTINO (93422) 2019-09-03 8:58

hello dear Luciano and have a nice time
and a happy new day
wow!!!how many beautiful photos with
these colorful butterflies!!!
step by step looking at the photos
seeing the title and reading your useful
notes I understood that this is not
a usual butterfly photo
regards
Costantino